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PVC repair coupling VS. Fernco coupling
Author: highdm (WI) Hello everyone. I am electric current in process of converting my empty basement into something more enjoyable. I take reached the indicate where I want to put upward the walls of the bathroom. Before I can practice this I demand to put in the crude in plumbing connection for the bathroom. I accept to cut the basement flooring to get to the main sewer line to join the drain lines from the bathroom to the main sewer line. Once the flooring is cut and I have access to the chief sewer line I programme on inserting a necessary Tee fitting into the main line. My problem is this, there volition non be any play with the main line to get a tee plumbing fixtures place and I need to use some type of coupling. What type of coupling? If I employ the Fernco coupling can this be put into the ground and cemented over. And is there annihilation special that needs to be done to it before I do and then. Or practise I user a PVC repair coupling. All the same I read nothing but hoar stories when people have tried to use this with the glue drying to fast and not being able to get the coupling in identify. That or they become information technology in place but it ends up leaking. Other people thoughts and experiences are welcome at this bespeak.
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PVC repair coupling VS. Fernco coupling

Author: highdm (WI)

Hello everyone.

I am electric current in process of converting my empty basement into something more enjoyable. I take reached the indicate where I want to put upward the walls of the bathroom. Before I can practice this I demand to put in the crude in plumbing connection for the bathroom. I accept to cut the basement flooring to get to the main sewer line to join the drain lines from the bathroom to the main sewer line. Once the flooring is cut and I have access to the chief sewer line I programme on inserting a necessary Tee fitting into the main line. My problem is this, there volition non be any play with the main line to get a tee plumbing fixtures place and I need to use some type of coupling. What type of coupling? If I employ the Fernco coupling can this be put into the ground and cemented over. And is there annihilation special that needs to be done to it before I do and then. Or practise I user a PVC repair coupling. All the same I read nothing but hoar stories when people have tried to use this with the glue drying to fast and not being able to get the coupling in identify. That or they become information technology in place but it ends up leaking. Other people thoughts and experiences are welcome at this bespeak.

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Re: PVC repair coupling VS. Fernco coupling
Author: steve (CA) Unless local lawmaking states otherwise, I would use a shielded no-hub coupling, without giving it a second thought.
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Re: PVC repair coupling VS. Fernco coupling
Author: packy (MA) i too have bad luck with repair couplings. in your instance it could exist even worse since yous volition be working with plastic pipe that has been buried and the walls just are non new and polish.
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Re: PVC repair coupling VS. Fernco coupling
Author: k & m (MD) Use a "shielded no-hub coupling". Yous'll have to 'whorl' it dorsum on itself (both of them, either end) halfway to get information technology in place but not too difficult.
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Re: PVC repair coupling VS. Fernco coupling
Author: asktom (MT) I concord a shielded coupling is best. PVC repair couplings are fine on a theoretical level, only they are a stinker to install and you only get 1 shot. Cached, I don't have a trouble with the all rubber coupling, but the correct shielded one is amend.
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Cheers everyone for your quick responses.
Author: highdm (WI) Thanks everyone for there quick response. This is not the just forum that I post this question to. The respond I take gotten take been about l-50 Some people say get with the repair PVC coupler and other say go with some type of Fernco coupler. I decided to attempt the PVC coupler. I feel cemented PVC coupler is far better than having a rubber coupler held on with a clamp that over time could rust or corrode off. I have establish deadening setting PVC cement that takes 3-4 time longer to set and then normal cement. This should allow me time to become the PVC coupler in identify before the cement hardens and locks the coupler in place. I am going to try the tiresome setting PVC cement on some extra PVC pipe & fitting I have and see how information technology preforms and if the lock in time is longer. If so I will attempt on the primary sewer line, allow the cement dry and leave the main sewer line exposed for a week. Then when some takes a shower or something long running I tin look to run into if the coupler leaks. If it does leak and then I tin can remove it and and so use the Fernco coupler. If information technology does not then I am far better off having similar for similar material and no chance of the clamps rusting or corroding off over fourth dimension. Edited 1 times.
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Cheers everyone for your quick responses.

Author: highdm (WI)

Thanks everyone for there quick response.

This is not the just forum that I post this question to. The respond I take gotten take been about l-50 Some people say get with the repair PVC coupler and other say go with some type of Fernco coupler.

I decided to attempt the PVC coupler. I feel cemented PVC coupler is far better than having a rubber coupler held on with a clamp that over time could rust or corrode off.

I have establish deadening setting PVC cement that takes 3-4 time longer to set and then normal cement. This should allow me time to become the PVC coupler in identify before the cement hardens and locks the coupler in place.

I am going to try the tiresome setting PVC cement on some extra PVC pipe & fitting I have and see how information technology preforms and if the lock in time is longer. If so I will attempt on the primary sewer line, allow the cement dry and leave the main sewer line exposed for a week.
Then when some takes a shower or something long running I tin look to run into if the coupler leaks. If it does leak and then I tin can remove it and and so use the Fernco coupler. If information technology does not then I am far better off having similar for similar material and no chance of the clamps rusting or corroding off over fourth dimension.

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Author: steve (CA) The shielded no-hub couplers are stainless steel(won't rust).
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Re: PVC repair coupling VS. Fernco coupling
Author: hj (AZ) IF you retrieve "tees" are the correct fittings for your connections, you should NOT exist doing this installation yourself.
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Re: PVC repair coupling VS. Fernco coupling
Author: highdm (WI) HJ Thank for your advice. I understand how water flows and that the least path of resistance is needed. There are many types of tee'southward, PVC Examination Tee, Bull Nose Tee, then on and and then forth. I do believe, provided that my chief line is 90deg from my newly install waste product line, that the part that I need to connection to my main line is chosen Germ-free Tee PVC DWV. A sanitary tee is used in residential and commercial drain, waste and vent systems The PVC DWV sanitary tee features a hub x hub x hub connexion and a flowing sweep to aid in the evacuation of waste and used fluids. The tee allows for a connectedness to be made in continuous pipeline and branch out to a different direction. All this depends on if my principal line is at 90deg of the newly installed drain line. However if it is not and it is at say a 45deg then I know that I have to apply some type Wye connector. What blazon of connector I apply volition be based off what I notice when I cut up the cement and betrayal the main sewer line. In desire a connector that promotes the flow of water in the management that the main sewer line natural menstruum. This much I understand. What I am I still not clear on the connector type. Some people say go with the repair PVC coupler and other say go with some type of Fernco coupler. I feel cemented PVC coupler is far better that having a rubber coupler held on with clamps that over time could rust or corrode off. I accept constitute wearisome setting PVC cement that takes three-iv time longer to set then normal cement. This should allow me to get the PVC coupler in place before the cement hardens and locks the coupler in place. I call up I am going to endeavor this first, let the cement dry and leave the master sewer line exposed for a week and look to run into if the coupler leaks. If it does and so I can remove information technology and and then use the Fernco coupler.
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Re: PVC repair coupling VS. Fernco coupling

Author: highdm (WI)

Thank for your advice. I understand how water flows and that the least path of resistance is needed. There are many types of tee'southward, PVC Examination Tee, Bull Nose Tee, then on and and then forth. I do believe, provided that my chief line is 90deg from my newly install waste product line, that the part that I need to connection to my main line is chosen Germ-free Tee PVC DWV. A sanitary tee is used in residential and commercial drain, waste and vent systems The PVC DWV sanitary tee features a hub x hub x hub connexion and a flowing sweep to aid in the evacuation of waste and used fluids. The tee allows for a connectedness to be made in continuous pipeline and branch out to a different direction. All this depends on if my principal line is at 90deg of the newly installed drain line. However if it is not and it is at say a 45deg then I know that I have to apply some type Wye connector. What blazon of connector I apply volition be based off what I notice when I cut up the cement and betrayal the main sewer line. In desire a connector that promotes the flow of water in the management that the main sewer line natural menstruum. This much I understand.

What I am I still not clear on the connector type. Some people say go with the repair PVC coupler and other say go with some type of Fernco coupler. I feel cemented PVC coupler is far better that having a rubber coupler held on with clamps that over time could rust or corrode off. I accept constitute wearisome setting PVC cement that takes three-iv time longer to set then normal cement. This should allow me to get the PVC coupler in place before the cement hardens and locks the coupler in place. I call up I am going to endeavor this first, let the cement dry and leave the master sewer line exposed for a week and look to run into if the coupler leaks. If it does and so I can remove information technology and and then use the Fernco coupler.

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Tee
Author: steve (CA) A sanitary tee is installed in a vertical drain piping and the branch is a horizontal inlet. If you are tieing into a horizontal drain pipe, you demand to use a wye or combo.
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Re: PVC repair coupling VS. Fernco coupling
Author: sum (FL) "All this depends on if my main line is at 90deg of the newly installed bleed line. All the same if it is not and it is at say a 45deg then I know that I have to utilize some type Wye connector." I am just a DIYer non a plumber just this is false. The location and angle betwixt the two pipes do not dictate whether you use a WYE or SANITARY TEE. My agreement is if you are draining from a horizontal pipe into a vertical vent/drain pipe, the connection should be a sanitary tee, because that vertical pipe is acting as a vent too. If you are merging a horizontal drain into another horizontal drain you need to use a WYE or Philharmonic, not a Sanitary TEE. The WYE is a more gradual transition and gives you some freedom to roll the fitting up partially if the elevations are not fifty-fifty, likewise in the consequence you need to snake the line in the future, a WYE plumbing equipment is much easier to navigate through merely a SANITARY TEE lying downwards on information technology'southward side tin can exist a challenge. That's my understanding from reading the pros on this site. Equally for whether a shielded coupling is preferred over a repair coupling. I think if everything else being equal I too would prefer a repair coupling. Even so for practical reasons I would use shielded couplings because #1 - I call up it is very difficult to install a larger diameter pipe with repair couplings you would have to mucilage both sides at the same fourth dimension, slide both repair couplings on, insert the slice, slide both repair couplings dorsum down to brand the joint, while making sure the co-operative of the fitting is rolled to the right angle, and if you are working in a tight space at an bad-mannered angle, it's a big challenge; also #2 sometimes the branch of the fitting will demand to be rotated slightly to fit the pitch of the pipe coming in, with a Fernco you can loosen the coupling and adjust with the repair couplings you are stuck. Edited 1 times.
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Re: PVC repair coupling VS. Fernco coupling

Author: sum (FL)

"All this depends on if my main line is at 90deg of the newly installed bleed line. All the same if it is not and it is at say a 45deg then I know that I have to utilize some type Wye connector."

I am just a DIYer non a plumber just this is false. The location and angle betwixt the two pipes do not dictate whether you use a WYE or SANITARY TEE.

My agreement is if you are draining from a horizontal pipe into a vertical vent/drain pipe, the connection should be a sanitary tee, because that vertical pipe is acting as a vent too. If you are merging a horizontal drain into another horizontal drain you need to use a WYE or Philharmonic, not a Sanitary TEE. The WYE is a more gradual transition and gives you some freedom to roll the fitting up partially if the elevations are not fifty-fifty, likewise in the consequence you need to snake the line in the future, a WYE plumbing equipment is much easier to navigate through merely a SANITARY TEE lying downwards on information technology'southward side tin can exist a challenge. That's my understanding from reading the pros on this site.

Equally for whether a shielded coupling is preferred over a repair coupling. I think if everything else being equal I too would prefer a repair coupling. Even so for practical reasons I would use shielded couplings because #1 - I call up it is very difficult to install a larger diameter pipe with repair couplings you would have to mucilage both sides at the same fourth dimension, slide both repair couplings on, insert the slice, slide both repair couplings dorsum down to brand the joint, while making sure the co-operative of the fitting is rolled to the right angle, and if you are working in a tight space at an bad-mannered angle, it's a big challenge; also #2 sometimes the branch of the fitting will demand to be rotated slightly to fit the pitch of the pipe coming in, with a Fernco you can loosen the coupling and adjust with the repair couplings you are stuck.

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